Ep. 26: Pound Town
Dan & Emily discuss Black Panther and weird laws from around the world.
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Hey, guys, quick note about today's episode at the time of recording, we've just received news of Chadwick Boseman death by pure happenstance. We're talking about his film Black Panther. This week, we want to make it clear this isn't an attempt to exploit his death. It's simply weird fucking timing. Given the sudden news. Our other option would have been to scrap this week's episode entirely. We're going to try and have our usual irreverent fun, but we wanted to take this moment to pay our respects and condolences to his family.
Welcome back to My Kajiggers with Dan and Emily.
Oh, hi, guys. Look, just leave it. Wow.
A good start to the show. Thanks. I was reading so right after I had just asked. You ready to go? Yep.
So and a lot of my news articles for What the Fuck News, there's a fucking weird Asheton platypus, something about some animals that roamed with the dinosaurs. So that's what kind of caught my attention and. Yeah.
Ok, so today we're going to be talking about Black Panther. And before that, we're going to talk about the recent DC fandom virtual convention since they're going to have Comic-Con this year.
So you watched some of the new trailers that they released. Yes. Would you think of Wonder Woman 1984?
See you before this trailer. There's another one that was released and it looked really fucking good. And I really enjoyed Wonder Woman. It was definitely a lot better than some of the other ones that they released and that one, like, blew past them. So I'm definitely excited for Wonder Woman, too. I liked the first trailer better. I did, too.
The music was better. This one just seems like a whole bunch of action clips thrown together. And I feel like I've seen the entire movie now.
Yeah, I feel like they had to do a little action, but maybe they could have cut back on it a little bit.
Yeah. Should have used better music too. That previous trailer had just a really good driving beat. I can hear that song in my head right now. I can't even imagine the song that was in the most recent one. It's just some generic filler music. Yeah. So one of the other ones they've released is the Batman with Robert Pattinson.
So there's actually have you seen so at the end, you know, where it's like Robert Pattinson and he's got like the dark makeup on his eyes. People have been trolling the shit out of the picture, like talk about like emo Robert Pattinson. And it makes a chuckle every time I see it.
I kind of like that bit from the trailer because that's just kind of a Batman thing. If he's wearing that mask outside of the comics where he has just those white lenses in a real world scenario, he has to put that makeup around his eyes.
So I don't mind that look, I just want to know, like, does he hop into the bat cave? I'm like, wait, wait a fucking second. I got black, so cut my wrists and black my eyes as though.
So I'm guessing that some song from a made up bag, but I don't recognize it.
It's Ohio. It's for Lovers by Hawthorne Heights for all you emo trash is out there.
You raise a good point about his makeup, though. In the first season or so of Arrow before they gave him a mask. Every time that he got into his vigilante getup, he put on this like dark green face paint around his eyes. Yeah, it was this constant discussion in, like, fan groups of like you just keep like a tattoo of that in his pocket or he fucking beats his face with a beauty blender. Well, then we do a quick change back into Oliver Queen. How's he getting that off so quick? It kind of seems stupid, but he also looks cool. I like that they seem to be doing a darker, serious version of the Riddler.
Yes. I was going to ask you I was waiting to hold like all comments till this podcast because then sent them to me and I forgot to watch them as I watched them before we recorded. You're welcome. And so I'm sitting here like I've got a lot of comments, especially about the next trailer you sent me. But I was going to ask if this one was supposed to be like a darker Batman because in the trailer he literally just like blood. He's a fucking person for no reason. Really? Yeah. I mean, besides, he's a bad guy, but, like, you fucking took him to downtown.
That's not what I would refer to as taking somebody to pound town. I think, you know. I know. I know. You might have watched the trailer for the porn parody.
Yeah. I don't I don't even want to call it.
I won't say I'm hyped for this movie because there's just not enough there yet. I mean, they only filmed, I think, a quarter to a third of this movie before covid shut the production down. So they have that much to put in the trailer. It looks promising. It kind of reminds me of the Netflix daredevil. So it has that kind of gritty, almost realism to it and the violent streak in the hero. I'm hoping one other thing, the borrow from Daredevil is having him get the shit beat out of him, too. That's something I really loved about that series. Have you watched that?
No, I haven't seen any of the daredevil Jessica Jones I. Seen any of those?
It's a really good series, and he's just constantly getting the shit out of them, but he just keeps getting back up and going at the bad guys. Yeah, this is the movie that Ben Affleck was originally supposed to star in. Right. And direct. Yeah. And then as he had various issues and the DC Universe and various issues, the role he was going to play just kept diminishing because he was Batman on the last movie, wasn't he? Yeah. And I think he also had to step away from the writing directing because he had to go to AA or something and he was in rehab for a while. I really was interested in seeing what he would have brought to it because I think he's a much better writer director than actor. Yeah, but I'm optimistic about this one. It looks cool. I'm interested in seeing what comes of it.
I don't know if I'll see it in theaters. I have a minute and presto, I mean, I'm not much of a DC fan, so I mean, and I can't stand Batman. It's just he is so I'm just over Batman.
I can see that is the fact that in the last 10 years alone, there has been three Batman's. But I can't say the same thing because I mean Spider-Man.
Yeah, but mine the different attempts at telling those stories.
But we don't keep getting origin stories every time this is like here's the thing with Spider-Man is that they've been different all three times, whereas Batman, it's the same fucking story almost. It's just like we're just going to put a different person in here.
Yeah. The next one wasn't even a full trailer. It was just a first look at the suicide squad.
Yeah, I hope it's so much better. Can you guess my favorite thing about this bit of footage, James Gunn, now the complete lack of Giulietto. This is true. But hey, we got John Cena and I think I hope he's good in it. Yeah, he's supposed to be in this footage, but I didn't see him. It's OK. He's hard to find. Was a stupid joke. Yes. I had to make it. I know it has. Is James Gunn the one that directed most of the Marvel movies? Now he's the one that directed the Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, yes. And then he got fired and then they rehired.
Ok, I'm hoping that by getting James Gunn for this, it will turn this movie around because he is a good director.
I think he's really good with ensemble cast and he's already shown with Guardians of the Galaxy that he can take little known characters and make them into something. Yeah, so I'm really excited. He makes funny movies, at least the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. I haven't really seen any of his other films. They just didn't appeal to me. Well, are some of his other films Slither, which is kind of a intentionally cheesy horror movie, and I think he did super. They didn't appeal to me. This is everything I've seen from it. It looks colorful. It looks violent, which suicide squad should be.
And the fact that almost everybody in it is comic book characters that even I don't recognize means probably most of them are going to die as they should in the suicide squad. Hated Scooby Doo one and two.
I remember reading about that recently. He was doing like a Q and A or something about the scripts that he originally wrote versus what got filmed because what he wrote wasn't appropriate for children.
I loved those movies, though, and he did Thirteen Ghosts, which could have been better, but not bad for 2001, I guess nothing else people super recognize. I mean, he did a movie. Forty three.
Did anybody see movie. Forty three. I'm sure somebody did out there.
But yeah, I'm very optimistic about this movie. It just looks colorful and fun and doesn't have Jared Leto in it. So it's just and I like that they're not just completely ignoring the first one that it appears to be bringing back some of the characters, at least the actors that would return. The only other one that I want to talk about was the suicide squad video game. Oh, I said that possibly. I'm pretty sure you wash it and responded to it.
No, you didn't send that. No, I. I said that to somebody. Oh, yes, you did. And I did respond to it. My brain doesn't work. OK, I'm sorry. Yes. It did look really cool and I'm honestly surprised by the graphics.
I don't want to get too hyped over it because all they've shown is like cinematic stuff, no gameplay footage. But I like the idea of a suicide squad game, especially if it's like, did you ever play Marvel Ultimate Alliance or the X-Men Legends Games? No, basically with those games before you started a level you picked from a roster of characters and built like a load out of four on a team, and they all battled together through the level and then you picked one to control and you could swap between them depending on what you wanted to accomplish. I'm hoping it's kind of like that. I don't want it to be necessarily multiplayer, but I want to be able to swap in and out between the characters rather than, oh, you're stuck with this person, this level or this person in this next level. I think it could be fun. Especially since the whole idea is that their target is to kill the Justice League. Yeah, it should be interesting. How about we go into some What the Fuck News?
Yeah, well, you take the lead. All right. So I'm going to start off with this one, which really threw me for a loop when I first saw it. Seven hundred and fifty million genetically engineered mosquitoes approved for release in Florida Keys. Now, if you were just reading the title, what would do you think?
I would think that was a bad idea to release a whole bunch of mosquitoes, but I'm sure it has a reason.
So there is a plan to release 750 million genetically modified mosquitoes in Florida between 20, 21 and 22. And even though people in the area said, fuck this, no, they went ahead and approved up to me. I don't understand why mosquitoes can fuck off, because my life I literally have so many mosquito bites on my legs. I literally look like I shoot crack into my legs. I look like I have meth bugs in my fucking legs.
So are you pro or against releasing these against. OK, I'm actually pro. The idea is these genetically modified mosquitoes, their genes have been coded so that basically all the female ones die off and then the male ones, which it's the females that bite apparently because they need the blood to breed or something. But then the males can mate with the existing mosquitoes that are already in Florida that can transmit all the different diseases. And if they mate with them, they pass along that gene for the females to die off. And so basically they're taking that kill code, they call it for the biting mosquitoes to die off in their larval stage and pass it on to the existing population.
You know, what are some like Jurassic Park shit happens with these and then these genetically modified mosquitoes end up reproducing as they just turn into females and start laying eggs and then we're all fucked. I think they should die by fire.
It's 20, 20 something will go wrong. Yes.
They'll start draining people of their blood, like Florida is already a goddamn dumpster fire. Who, us? It's going to fucking happen.
They'll develop their own shivs, just come by and just stab people like double stabbed in the stomach and walk on. Yes. Pass the ship off to another mosquito as they go by.
Yes. Probably harvest some fucking organs. And next thing you know, you're waking up in a bathtub of ice.
Yeah, I can see your point. It's twenty twenty. That's not going to go as planned. But no, they did say there wait until twenty, twenty one in twenty, twenty two. Maybe those years will be better.
Can we just maybe fact that it's Florida. There anything else about that. No fuck mosquitoes.
Ok, much like our last episode, my first story, I'm not even going to read you the headline because it would ruin the beauty of the first sentence of the article. OK, a gospel singer turned celebrity politician in Brazil is accused of masterminding the brutal assassination of her husband, who was once her adopted son with the help of five of the couple's fifty five children. A sense is a lot to unpack, and it's like a mad lib.
Ok, what's the title?
I even write it down, but the full story behind this is Singer Floridly Dos Santos de Souza. Apparently she's a famous rags to riches story in Brazil and been the subject of a movie even. Well, she met her husband Anderson in 1991 when he was 14. She was thirty. She took pity on, adopted him. Seven years later, they were married. Then they had four kids of their own. And then we're feeling especially philanthropic. So they adopted fifty one other children over the years. He was found murdered in twenty nineteen after being shot in the groin thirty times after what the family said was a botched robbery because that's how bank robberies work more like Boston. Tahlia, somebody catches you in the middle of robbing their house, you shoot them in the groin, then you stop and reload, then you shoot them in the groin some more. So you stop and reload.
No, here's what I want to know. What it is fucking look like after like, is there anything left or is it just like hanging by pieces?
It's like a rolled up sausage roll, like the guy who is growing the penis lines are.
No, I'm sure to be exploited by that. It's like casing everywhere and there's like meat hanging out.
Yeah, I don't want to picture that. You're welcome. But yeah, the botched robbery story didn't really sit well with police, so they started investigating and say they found new evidence that she ordered a hit on her husband. She's also accused of trying to poison him at least six times before ordering the assassination. Very much so. She's a gospel singer and politician. Very. Jesus, like a four. Yeah, and the laws in Brazil give all members of parliament immunity so she can't be arrested, but the police are trying to get that law changed because of this case. And they've arrested five of the adopted children and one granddaughter for the parts that they played in the murder. My head is spinning on this. What the fuck? It's weird that, like, there were celebrities in Brazil because this really reads like something that would happen in a trailer park. Yeah, yeah. My adopted husband, who was her adopted son. What's your next story?
This is a doozy, OK? It is from Detroit. A young woman was pronounced dead from breathing in a funeral home. How a young woman who was in her 20s was declared dead at her home but opened her eyes when they're at the funeral home, almost to the point where they would have been draining her blood to embalm her. Oh, God. Just moments before that, like, did you fall into a coma?
So there was a medical crew summoned to this woman's home because she was found unresponsive. Paramedics tried to revive the woman for 30 minutes and consulted an emergency room doctor. They pronounced the patient dead based upon medical information provided the Oakland County medical examiner's office said the body could be released to the family without an autopsy. And the funeral home she went to, she was found alive more than an hour later. I don't get it.
I want more details. It kind of reminds me of have you ever heard how in voodoo they create zombies like not walking dead zombies, but like basically the use of this? I think it's blowfish poison that's highly toxic and basically takes your metabolism and everything down to almost nonexistent. So people think you've died, you think you've died, and then they come to you out of the grave and tell you you're a zombie and they keep you drugged so that you're, like, not in full control of your senses. Yeah, it's really messed up. I wonder if this lady was somehow either intentionally or unintentionally poisoned with something. I want more details.
I know I should have found because a couple of days ago there was actually a part two because the two medical examiners were actually fired. That's reasonable.
So I wish I could find that other article if I find it literally, you know, it's definitely reasonable because with today's modern technology, you should be able to find out if a woman's fucked or something.
Ok, I have two related stories. The first headline, FDA says, Please don't drink hand sanitizer even if it's sold in a beer can. And the next one is almost 15 North Texans drink bleach this month. Poison center won't stop. It won't cure covid. Why? First off, the hand sanitizer. Apparently, there's a problem with the popularity of hand sanitizer right now and everybody trying to compete to make there's more appealing than the next. The FDA is warning that a lot of the packaging is being made to resemble beer cans, water bottles, juice bottles, vodka bottles and even children's snack pouches.
Oh, I have actually seen the pouches.
One, why why do you need to make them look like food? You know, people are stupid.
I mean, if you turn around in my little bowl back there, pick up one of the see hand sanitizers and just read it.
Sweet cinnamon pumpkin.
Yeah. And then there's another one back there that I'm sure is like blueberry pie or something.
I mean, I get it, but I'm also not stupid, so I guess I'm not going to eat it. And this article had a picture of it looked like not even a beer came. It looked like an orange soda can full of hand sanitizer. For real. Yeah. And then just the people drinking bleach. No one should have to tell you don't drink bleach.
Well, didn't ah, you know, our high, mighty super fucking smart president told people to drink bleach.
I think what he said was we need to think about injecting disinfectant.
That and he also was pushing the hydroxy chloroquine or whatever it was. And then people started looking at like fish supplements or something they had that had the same ingredient like, oh, I'll just take this, which was that toxic doses. People just go to a doctor, don't start trying to drink bleach or make home remedies for covid or anything. Really do those. Kreiss, are you looking at that picture. Yes. Doesn't look like orange soda.
Well I mean the can is orange, but is this like an actual actual beverage because I know it's not a beverage, it's just hand sanitizer is alcohol.
So they just put it in a can I just don't get people like. Can we not trust science?
Why do we have to try drinking bleach and because, you know, because science changes all the time, people don't trust it, but that's the fucking point of science. Yes, we learn new things and change.
Listen, fuckers don't drink bleach, don't inject disinfected hydrochloric and fucking whatever doesn't work for covid.
I don't know. I think they've done more studies on that, but not the fish supplement. Anything you're going to have in your home. Jesus Christ, I can't. All right. That's your cover. What the Fuck News.
God damn people are stupid. Not our followers, though. I mean, I hope you guys are smart enough not to shoot back bleach, but promise me you are smart enough not to shoot back bleach.
One can only hope. One can only hope. OK, how about some Black Panther? Wakanda forever. Wauconda forever. So where to start. Had you seen this movie before?
Yes, I actually once saw it in theaters when it came out. We went to the next town over and saw because it was a bigger theater. And this is probably my favorite Marvel movie that has come out in the last few years. Like I like Spider-Man and X-Men will always be my favorite. But in the last few years, this is probably my favorite.
I saw this a couple of times in the theaters. When they first announced the movie, I was like, OK, whatever Black Panther, I didn't know much about him. I didn't really think it was something that would appeal to people. The names a little off-putting with the history of the Black Panther Party. Yes. In the US. And then they released the first trailer and that trailer was so cool.
Just the graphic detail of this movie is so outstanding.
It's got a style to it. Yes. So cool. The music.
I think my favorite part of the movie is I like learning about different cultures and just seeing the immense culture used in this movie really touched me in a deep place. I'm a white woman. I don't know what that's like. I mean, I want I don't have much culture, but seeing them bring an African tribe to life like this was amazing. And it made me feel like I learned something. Even though this is a comic book movie, I felt like it was real.
Yeah, they did a really great job developing this culture and having it be diverse, a collection of cultures within that just because it's for tribes, right?
Five, five.
Ok, the mountain tribes kind of stayed off on their own.
The color in this movie, like so bright in the clothing they wore.
Oh, I think the clothing was so beautiful and the way their technology is worked into their culture, like technologically they are so far ahead of the rest of the world and yet it hasn't dominated their culture. They still look traditional. Yes. And the way their buildings are set up, there's still lots of open space and access to the outside.
I mean, the one tribe, the guards, the border. And I can I remember the name and I just go on the border drive. No, they have an actual name, I'm pretty sure thing. It begins with a TI. OK, but they live on the outskirts, but they still use technology, but they still live off the land.
And I thought that was really cool the way they have those forcefield shields built into their caves. Yeah. Oh that's so cool. I love that about all of the technology. It's functional and built into their existing clothing, like these really cool cell phones.
They're just built into the bracelets and they like just and I mean, even the beads were inscribed with tribal letters. And I don't think they ever said what it said. But like, they were stylish, too, to Charla's necklace that turns into the Black Panther. Even that was very traditional. And that's so cool. And I just I love learning about new cultures. And even though this isn't I'm sure that they probably took ideas from existing cultures in the surrounding area and use them, but it made me want to study more.
I also really love the music in this movie. Yes. This soundtrack for this movie came out twenty, eighteen, twenty, seventeen. I still listen to that soundtrack frequently. Like several of the songs are kind of mellow. Others are like good workout jams.
I don't know if I've actually listened to the legit soundtrack.
I mean, it's one of those soundtracks where it's not just music inspired by the film. It's all in the movie. Yeah. And the weekends got a really good song and it's just such a great soundtrack.
I think one of my favorite parts of the movie is when they do the tradition of the fighting and seeing everybody gather in. And seeing all those culture difference, how I mean, each tribe is different, but they still collect for the same kind of rituals.
Yeah, and I think fighting the two fight scenes, they're really good.
Let's talk about that. The first one where it's to Cholla, his father has died. Theoretically, he should inherit the mantle of King and Black Panther. Yes, but tradition dictates he has to appear at this spot and accept a challenge for leadership of the country.
And I know it's gorgeous because it's like a waterfall. Oh, yeah, it's the scenery is gorgeous. But back to the fight. Yes.
It's really just a matter of tradition. Everybody there is like, oh, no, we're not going to challenge you except for one guy who does show up out of nowhere. Yes. Do you remember his name? Yes. Yeah. It's much more appropriate than the original Colquitt name. What's the manip. Oh, yeah. Problematic. Which I mean, it is because of his guerilla motif, which is supposed to like contrast with the Panther motif.
But I mean, that's what their tribe is. Yes. Representing.
But it has very unfortunate racial connotations that they did well to avoid using that name in this movie. Good. But before he shows up, it's a joyous occasion. Everybody's just happy. Like there's this ceremony that's happening. All these different tribes are gathering. They're dancing, they're singing. And it's just, hey, we're going to coronate a new king today. And we all like him. He's cool. But then when this guy shows up to challenge his claim to leadership, it serves a really important part in the movie because it sets up the rules of the challenge and how the challenge is fought. You can only win or lose by forfeit or death, but it functions much like the Ten Commandments in Hamilton. It's explain how this process works so that it's very easily understood for much more important battle later in the story, which meant that second battle with kill Mongar. That is brutal.
Can we take a second here? And so back to the first fight. So all of the Warriors and Wauconda are female? Well, the the palace guardians are female. And I think that is so fucking cool is that these women are Shong. They're also beautiful. Not that that matters, but like they're probably from the movie, but they're strong women fighters and they live off of that and they know how good they are. What is the one that is to Charla's sidekick is a queer? I think so. I'll look it up. But she's just a bad ass in general and. Well, she's the general. Yeah, sorry, but she's just a fucking bad ass. And then his girlfriend is also a super bad ass and I'm looking up their names. Knuckey, Nakia and Akoya. Yes. You are going someplace where that first light so and the first fight back and to are fighting. But it's for Baku's men and for of to Charla's warrior women. And every time somebody goes down they move in a little bit closer and it draws them towards the edge. And it just gets I mean, I watched it lay in a bed, but in that fight I sat up watching it, even though I have seen it before. And it's been since the movie has come out that I have watched it. But this movie sends chills down my spine almost every time, like there's a fight scene.
Ambika, I like that character. He's not in it a lot. But you don't get the feeling that he comes to the challenge because he's just craving power. It really seems like he questions whether to fit, to lead. And so somebody needs to challenge him.
Yes. And I think that is good for Cholla in the end, because I think he needed that. And after he wins the fight, Boku surrenders, I think mostly because I don't know if it's mostly because but I think in part they're on the ground at the edge of the waterfall and he's like, your people need you give up. He's like, I do not want to kill you. I do not think of you as a threat. And I think the words your people need you really kind of was like, OK, yeah, I really like that character.
I'm glad that he got some small play in Infinity War. And who knows what's happening with the Black Panther sequel. Now, I definitely hope he comes back because you see, he becomes part of tacklers. You could see his cabinet at the palace. He's part of the team. He's meeting with the king at the end. And they really form a respect for each other. There's a scene when they go to him for help in the mountains and he's like, why should I offer you help? You are the first king who has come here in centuries. Why should I have any love or respect for your family? They have been disrespected.
They cut themselves off, but they've been disrespected by the other tribes because they want to conform to the technology advances.
Yeah, I love that character and I definitely want more of him when he comes back in the second half of the movie because ultimately he rescued, well, one of his men rescued to Charla from the water and they saved his life. And so, I mean, I think ultimately he has great respect for to Chawla, even though he doesn't want to put it off that way.
Yeah. And he really had no reason to keep the child alive or care who really if he's not in charge of Wauconda, there's no reason for him to care who else actually is, because, again, they're just off living by themselves in the mountains. They don't have that much interaction with the rest of the country. So it really shouldn't matter if killed Mongar is in charge and fucking shit up because it doesn't really affect them.
Yeah. What about kill Mongar? I wish there was more character development. I mean, it literally shows him as a kid and then as an adult spy and then he dies. Spoiler sorry guys.
He's one of my favorite Marvel villains because of the character development I see in him. Maybe not so much what you see on screen, but what they give to him and how he portrays it.
I'm not saying that he didn't portray it. Well, Michael B. Jordan is a great actor and he, for lack of a better term, he killed that part. He executed this character very, very well, which he does in most of his roles as it is. But I wish there was just a little bit more. I felt like his character was pushed a little too fast in some places. But like, what if you would have lived and I never read the comics, so I don't know too much. But like, what if he decided to, you know, live and I think to Cholla as a person wouldn't have you know, he's like, kill Mongar goes, why? Why do I want to live? Because you're just going to incarcerate me. I honestly don't know if to Hollywood, I think he would have shown him what Conder tradition and try to grow him as a person and to be a part of the cabinet.
But that's just me too, that I think his death helps grow to Cholla. And I love this character because you can really see him. He's twisted by his hatred, but you can definitely see him as a victim of the circumstances that were created by touchless father when he killed Charles uncle who was killed Munger's dad, and just the way he was abandoned. And I feel for the character like it's hard to agree with him because he definitely takes his anger too far and like is way too brutal and wants to oppress other people around the world. But you can understand him so well of how he got where he is. And if things had gone different when he was a kid, he probably wouldn't have ended up that way.
So one of the notes that I wrote down is that Tischler comes to the realization that family traditions or even traditions or ways aren't always right, as in the way his father ruled, which he didn't rule the country terribly. But the fact that he killed his brother, lied about it and left Erik to his own defences. You knew that he had, I'm sure, but it was his dad seemed to come and go.
But sorry to Charles father. Oh, to chukka. To Chocho, to tronc, I'm sure to Chocho knew that there was a son and the fact that he left him and he even admitted we couldn't we couldn't take him. You could have taken that child and you could have you could have saved that child from the way that he turned out.
Absolutely. I love that about the story arc in this movie of he starts out wondering how he can be a king as good as his dad, and then it takes him through losing his cousin and having to kill his cousin. He ultimately ends up realizing that he doesn't need to be like his dad. He can. Well, as Nakia says earlier in the movie, you get to choose what type of king you want to be. And so it puts him on this other path.
I think also because every time he drinks the flower, when you drink the flower to turn into the Black Panther, you are buried and you speak to past elders. And he met with his father twice. One was to talk to his dad like, I'm not ready to be without you as far as like you got. You're strong, you're smart, blah, blah, blah, and then he makes and he thought I was so sentimental that he met his father, but in the second time they had a Berryman's now after Boxey of them, he sees his father again. And he is just so angry because he's like, why didn't you tell me? Why didn't you take him? And his followers just gave it a shit ass excuse.
I'm glad you brought that up, because I noticed something watching this movie. One, they never really pick a side of whether the flower actually transports you to the ancestral plane or if it's just a really powerful hallucinogen and you just get out of it. Whatever your mind thinks, you need to get out of it. But when the first time he goes in, he's seeking advice from his father, it's really dark. All of his ancestors are taking the form of Panthers until his dad assumes a human form. And it's just really mysterious. And then later, after he's learned more about his family, is making his own decisions, he goes back and it's all bright and in sunlight and you see all the ancestors as the people they were. It's like his eyes have been opened. He sees them as the like flawed human beings they are. And he doesn't need the mystery and mysticism of it. He's choosing to chart his own path. And that's the point. I think he becomes a king when he accepts the responsibility himself. The whole conflict between jigaboo into Chocho brothers, Prince and the King in jigaboo has been sent to basically observe in the US and he's just such a good guy that he's moved by the suffering of other people in the world and people of color. He's like, wow, we are super privileged. We got to do what we can to help these people. And yeah, he's collecting weapons, but you don't get the feeling like he's as angry and hateful as his son ultimately ends up being. But there's definitely this undercurrent in the movie of is Wauconda doing enough? Do they have a responsibility to the other people, especially people of color in the world, to lift them up, liberate them as kill Mongar might say? What do you think of that? Like, do they have a moral responsibility to go basically interfering in every other country's politics just because they have the power? Like does do they have the responsibility or do they have the right either way?
Yes, because they have access to the resources to help give aid to some of the extremely poor areas. But I don't think they need to be going pulling a US basically, like we're going to help you make things fucking worse. But I don't think they make things worse. I but I also see that other governments are like, you're overstepping your boundaries. I do think they could help out a little bit more like at the end where you see that that building that was the apartment where he was murdered.
Yes. And to talk about it and his sister and Nokia, they're going to head a science center there. And I think that is a good step to starting to get back into low income areas. Education. I think education is extremely important, especially where it isn't as widely accessible.
Yeah, I think that is a good way to make an impact outreach and science and medicine. But also there is a threat of if they let the rest of the world know too much about their culture because the rest of the world thinks they're just the third world shithole. If they what everybody else know about how vibranium powers everything and how advanced they are, the rest of the world's going to want that shit. Yeah. So I think it's taking it slow. Even if you share that power technology power can be used like in this movie. The vibranium power can be used to power, medicine and medical equipment, but it can also be used to make some pretty big bombs.
Yes. And I mean, it healed that CIA guy, but it can also be used for destruction. And they had so many weapons and they were creating mass amounts of weapons, they are going to take them to other countries. And that could have been so bad. Like I don't think they're ready to show that advancement yet.
But taking small steps might warm everybody up, like, OK, maybe they're not like they're still not a rich land, but they can offer something maybe.
And it's kind of like in Star Trek, there's this principle they call the prime directive where Starfleet isn't allowed to interfere with other alien species that aren't up to their level technology, because even if they're well-meaning, it's unpredictable. How just giving somebody oh, here's the plans to a warp engine. Yeah. That might help them explore the universe and develop as a culture or it might just lead them to be conquerors. But you just don't know how it's going to impact a culture. I can see that same argument applying because Wauconda so fucking ahead of everybody. Oh yeah. We might as well be an alien culture pretty much for a second.
Can we just talk about how much Suri is a badass. She's so smart and so innovative and she's seventeen. Yeah, something like that. That's ridiculous. And I get that girl mad props.
I was talking to somebody earlier about what are they going to do now with Black Panther because unfortunately, Chadwick Bosun's not around. Should they recast or not in the comics? At one point Suri became the Black Panther. I think that could be an interesting road for them to go down, especially with Peter Parker and Spider-Man possibly leaving the MCU. That gives them another young character who can have that learning the ropes and find their place in the world story arc. Yeah, I don't know how she would win a challenge against anybody, but it's a real they could go down.
It's she can train to fight with Akoya and Nakia and Boko.
Have him I think she has plenty of resources to learn how to do combat.
Well, he could take on the mantle and basically be a, I don't know, fill in until she's ready. Yeah, but I don't think they should be in a hurry to sort this out like now. Give everybody time to process what's happened. So many of them didn't even know he was sick, even the ones that were working closely with him.
Now, it's just so sad because there was a few pictures taken near the end and you could like I haven't seen anything on him in a long time. And so, like, pictures that were popping up, my goodness. And he just looks so gone in the face. But he always had a smile.
My first reaction when the news came out was that so terrible, I even knew he was sick. And then as one of those thoughts that kept me awake at night, where it was suddenly remembering, oh, a few months ago, there was these articles going around where people were worried about his health and they just passed it off as well. He's preparing for a role. He's lost weight like actors do. And it's just unfortunate that he was suffering in silence.
And that's so sad because I know it's none of the world's business, but like, I wonder if there was more that could have been done. And I don't know the full story and the fact that he had cancer while filming, I think six or what, six movies over the last four years, something like that.
It was the same year that he was cast as Black Panther for Civil War was the year he was diagnosed at stage three. It makes you wonder if that's all these roles played a toll on his health. This role is such a gift and an inspiration to young children of color who didn't have a whole lot of heroes that looked like them at the same time, like he's a hero himself. Maybe he could live longer if he wasn't doing these movies.
He took the time for himself.
But but yeah, that's all I really had to say on Black Panther. Anything else you wanted to add?
Not really know.
So since we've been talking about Wauconda and this strange, isolated, almost alien country, we thought we would discuss just strange, weird laws we found from around the world. Why don't you go first?
So my first one is the age old question of what do Scottish men wear underneath their kilts? May have a simple legal answer. Scots must not wear any underwear under their kilts or be fined two beers, according to old but entertaining laws.
I mean, Scots take their beer seriously. Apparently Zali had on that one. Yeah, some of these are a little short.
My first one is just kind of like a collection of laws from North Korea, which is kind of the type of country I think we kind of would have become under kill mongers leadership. So only male government officials can drive a car in North Korea. There's so few of them that it's estimated only one in every one hundred people have a car. No women are completely forbidden to drive. Even those working as traffic officers.
I'm honestly surprised that women can be traffic officers.
Yeah, it seems odd. And one thing you don't want to do in North Korea is fall asleep while Kim Jong un is speaking.
Well, it's not really a laughing matter. I could assume so.
So it happened to a defense minister and he was executed. And according to defectors, he is not the only person that Kim Jong un has had executed by strapping them to the front of an anti-aircraft gun and pulling the trigger, which if you've ever seen those guns, they're not small. That that's a harsh way to go into your next one.
So, Polan, I'm going to watch this game. It's a tampon called Tunes In. Kids who live in this town in Poland must leave there. Winnie the Pooh backpack, lunchboxes and hats at home as the beloved cartoon character has been deemed an inappropriate hermaphrodite like Valentino because he doesn't wear pants and has non gender specific genitalia. PU is banned from all playgrounds in children's areas. This is my favorite part. Donald Duck.
Consider yourself warned from people like Winnie the Pooh.
Although he's harmless, he's also not wearing pants. It's a fucking pair.
Still has some decency. OK, here's a great one. Since two thousand seven, China has banned Buddhist monks in Tibet from reincarnating without government permission. I read that one, which is Kawi law for an atheist government to enact. Did you read into like, why not really?
Because I wasn't picking it up.
Ok, so basically. Comes down to the Dalai Lama because he's been living in exile from Tibet since the 50s when the Chinese took over Tibet and traditionally it's believed that the Dalai Lama can control where he's going to reincarnate. And he said, I'm not going to reincarnate into any Chinese controlled land. So by controlling who is a valid reincarnation, who isn't, this sets them up to basically after he dies. And he's been a very vocal opponent of the Chinese government, they can just pick their own replacement, Dalai Lama, after he's passed and say, hey, he's the guy who validly reincarnated. I think it is going to be an interesting situation because you're going to end up with a Chinese Dalai Lama who supports their regime and then the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leadership. They're going to find who they say is the legitimate reincarnation. Think whatever you want to about reincarnation. So I think as a political situation, that's interesting. A little bit. Yeah. And the fact that they've just preemptively passed this law because he's getting up there and using, like, fingers crossed, he's going to pass eventually and we're going to pick somebody who's just going to fall in line with us pretty much.
So just wait till you hear this one, because I can actually give you specifics on this. OK, you know, people argue about weight all the time. In Japan, they decided to ban overweight people. It is illegal to be obese. So for a male, it is eighty five centimeters or thirty three point five inches waistline and women it is 90 centimeters or thirty five inches waistline. I would actually be considered obese to head.
I would not consider you obese.
Exactly, because I just had my waist measured because I've been doing a diet and just I it's bad because I shouldn't track it. But just for my personal mental health, I have been once every couple of months I have been tracking it and my latest measurement isn't even this yet. So I would actually be considered overweight if I was Japanese. In fairness, they are a smaller people. They also live in extremely healthier lifestyle, unlike Murka.
So as I was searching for weird laws, I came across this one in an article about strange laws. It made me say, what the fuck? OK, there's a law in Germany that makes a wedding invalid. If one or both of the participants were in a state of unconsciousness or did not know at the time of the marriage that was a marriage, what why is that a strange law?
Why? What happened? That it became a law.
That's a law that makes sense. If you're unconscious, you shouldn't be allowed to get married.
You know, it also goes along the lines of, like in America, how people are like somebody who is unconscious, can't say no and are raped and. But you didn't say no. It doesn't fucking matter.
Yeah. When I found this, quote unquote strange law, I just in my hand like this, written by a caveman like he just like sitting in his cave typing away, like, what is this bullshit? How am I supposed to get Brid if I can't hear of the head and drag her back to the cave?
Oh, no.
I just don't understand why this made it into an article about we had lost.
It's fucking weird as I had on that one. Yeah. All right. So my last one is from another country, but Florida could be honestly his own fucking country at this point. So this one reads, are you married a woman or love skydiving in Florida?
A four.
You're in Florida. It's illegal for a married woman to go skydiving on a Sunday. Breaking the law can result in fines, arrest and jail time, which almost goes with. There is another one that is I think it's on the East Coast that in this state, in the United States, a man can legally beat his wife, like literally beat his wife as long as it's in public on Sunday.
What the hell are the ones that like to stay on the books and we're not enforcing it? OK, we'll get rid of the law. So this was in the same article about the German wedding law. I guess they just have a problem with Germany because they include another law. And at first, like, OK, why is this one strange, too? Because in Germany, it's illegal to cause an unauthorized nuclear explosion, which seems like a fair law to have. I don't want anybody in the US creating an unauthorized nuclear explosion. So why is this weird? I found the actual law. Here's what's weird about it. Would you care to guess how much time in prison you can get for causing this nuclear explosion? Thirty days. No, it's not that bad. Five years if it was intentional. But if it was only negligence, they knock it down to three years. I'm sorry if you're so negligent. Thirty five days. Yeah. Oh, thirty five days would be pretty ridiculously low. But five years for causing a nuclear explosion seems low. Even the three years for negligence. If you're so negligent that you cause a nuclear explosion, I don't think you should get out in three years.
I want to know where that nuclear explosion is happening. Would it be inside the country itself?
Yeah, I would have to be there prosecuting it. But yeah, it's just such a weird law or even weird law. It's just weird willo punishments for that. OK, why don't you take us right into Urban Dictionary.
Ok, it's kind of disappointing. Urban Dictionary hasn't been very good at all. I got one that made me chuckle but like honestly disappointed because a lot of it has become political lately so and they just suck. So my one urban dictionary for today is Booker Sugar is that cocaine is God damn it just made me chuckle because it was called booger sugar.
I don't know why my brain just me with only cocaine. Yeah.
I'm so pretty damn well in this on a high note and it wasn't about poop.
God yeah.
That'll wrap this up for this week.
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