Ep. 16: You Came in That?
Talking about Star Wars! Emily watched A New Hope for the first time and we share our thoughts on the film and whether Emily wants to continue watching the series. Also, WTF News and a new segment called That's Tasty.
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Dan:
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to My Kajiggers with Dan and Emily. It's been a while.
Emily:
It has been. Yeah. Welcome to the New Year.
Dan:
Happy New Year, everybody. Thanks for coming back after our short vacation.
Emily:
Hopefully everybody has blown their New Year's resolutions. I know I have.
Dan:
I don't even set New Year's resolutions anymore.
Emily:
I don't know either.
Dan:
No, it was a nice, long break. Almost felt too long.
Emily:
I know.
Dan:
I've been itching to get back to recording.
Emily:
It's been. I mean, we took a couple of weeks off.
Dan:
And it's been three weeks since we recorded our last episode. We took two weeks off without doing anything.
Emily:
And Bronx and Skadi is ready to be active for you guys.
Dan:
But before we get any deeper into the show, I do want to make a small announcement. Our release schedule will be changing. We had been releasing episodes every Thursday. We're going to change that to every other Thursday. So this episode will be coming out on January 16th. The next episode will be on January 30th. And every other week after that,.
Emily:
We hope you guys don't mind. But this gives us more time to, you know, make better content for you.
Dan:
Yeah. And the release schedule was just killing me.
Emily:
Me, too. But we're really doing that not only for us, but we want to bring you guys the best that we can.
Dan:
Yeah. We both have full time jobs. And you have a second job. Trying to make a good show every week... And on my end, get it edited and released on time and then come up with content for the next show. It was just a struggle. We think we can give you a better show if we just take it easier and do it every other week. And also, it gives us time to just be friends, too.
Emily:
Yeah. We hope you guys understand this and we appreciate you guys so much and hope this turns out so much better because this is something we both really like doing.
Dan:
Oh, and while we're making announcements, we got a YouTube channel.
Emily:
Yay!
Dan:
At this time, we're not really planning on doing any, like, video, blogs or anything. But apparently there's a lot of people that listen to podcasts on YouTube.
Emily:
I do.
Dan:
So we're just uploading our usual episodes to YouTube. There'll be a little bit of art to go with it, but not really that much. It's just another way for everybody to enjoy the show.
Emily:
Hopefully you guys like the platform because I mean, YouTube is so widely searched.
Dan:
I'm trying to get us on Pandora. Cross your fingers. I'm working on it.
Emily:
Oh.
Dan:
Still waiting to hear back. We'll let you know if we do. But as always, you can check out My Kajiggers Podcast on Facebook for any updates. And the YouTube channel is also My Kajiggers Podcast. And you'll know when you find it because it's got our nice little cartoon faces like any other podcast platform.
Emily:
Yeah. Maybe some episodes Dan can put Skadi and Bronx on there.
Dan:
Yeah, maybe. I know I'm working on a few things. I don't want to give away any surprises, but we'll see what comes up in the future.
Emily:
Check back soon, guys.
Dan:
Yeah. But anyway, I got so bored while we were on break that I sent Emily at one point a poorly photoshopped image of her dog with a lightsaber.
Emily:
Oh, way to segway there, Dan. What are we doing today?
Dan:
Yeah. Today we're gonna be talking about Star Wars. Big episode. Emily has never seen Star Wars up until now.
Emily:
Yeah. I don't know why. Like it was one of those movies that never really appealed to me. Like, I understand people like fan like the fan base about it. I don't get, like, hugely excited about movies. Like I love watching movies. But, you know, Star Wars was one of those that I was never like, oh, I have to see that.
Dan:
But before we get into that, why don't we start off the show in our usual fashion with some what the fuck news.
Emily:
It's gonna be,I don't know about yours, but mine's really fucked up.
Dan:
Some of these are kind of older stories just because we took some time off, but they're funny and we love to share.
Emily:
Yeah.
Dan:
Not even necessarily funny. They're just what the fuck?
Emily:
Yeah.
Dan:
My first one is from the Orlando Sentinel. Florida man awakes to find intruder sucking his toes.
Emily:
You know, before you get into that, I feel like I should text my brother since he's in that area to see if he knows about this.
Dan:
You think it's him doing it?
Emily:
Yes.
Dan:
The Manatee County Sheriff's Office said the.
Emily:
Hold on. Manatee?
Dan:
Yes.
Emily:
Go on.
Dan:
They said the victim was sleeping in his bedroom on Christmas Eve. So happy holidays. He was woken up by an intruder and he asked the intruder what he was doing, to which the intruder answered, quote-- He was there to suck to toes.
Emily:
Okay. I don't know if you know about this. It was some claymation videos that were on YouTube like 15 years ago. And they are like blue blob like people. And they were the most incredibly just terribly made. But they are hilarious. And one of the quotes from one of the episodes is, I want to eat your toes.
Dan:
It's not ringing a bell.
Emily:
OK. I'm going to have to show you.
Dan:
OK. Well, first off, if I wake up and somebody's sucking my toes, I'm not having a discussion with them to figure out why they're there. I'm just going to kick them in the face. But after they established why this guy was there, they got into a short little fight and then the intruder tried to fondle the victim's genitals before fleeing from his house.
Emily:
Whoa! What? I'm gonna suck your toes and touch your PeePee?
Dan:
Yep.
Emily:
That's wild.
Dan:
I haven't seen an update on whether they caught this guy. I feel like he has to be on drugs or something.
Emily:
The toe sucking bandit is still at large.
Dan:
You're not just a criminal with a weird fetish for toes. This has to be somebody that was on something. So what's your next story?
Emily:
Mine's also... No. Like, that's like fucked up in it's own way but this is fucked up. So there was a mom who has been sentenced to seven years in prison for injecting her 15 year old son's cancer I.V. with fecal matter in 2016. This boy was in this hospital for leukemia treatments and he was discharged and sent home. And then a few days later was brought back because he was vomiting, had a fever and diarrhea. And so they were like, why is this kid not getting better? And they did like blood tests. And they're like, okay, well, there's bacteria in your blood that can. He had a bacterial infection and sepsis because of this. And so they monitored his room and they watched the mom inject his line with some substance. And it turns out it was the kid's own shit. She kept in a bag and the kids, the bath, the hospital bathroom, so he could be moved to the intensive care unit because she believed that the treatment would be better there.
Dan:
What the fuck?
Emily:
Right. So she has six counts of aggravated assault and one count of neglect.
Dan:
So I want my child to get better treatment. So I'm almost gonna kill them.
Emily:
Yeah. And that's the one thing that they didn't charge her was attempted murder.
Dan:
People are stupid. The idea that you're gonna get better treatment in intensive care. Yeah. They're gonna keep a closer eye on you in intensive care because it's intensive care. But that doesn't mean in other departments of the hospital they're not treating people.
Emily:
Yeah. One, that's disgusting because she was keeping this kid's shit in a bag. So it said she kept it in a gift bag on the bathroom sink and she would just go in there and.
Dan:
What is wrong with people?
Emily:
I don't know. Like your kids already having a shitty time. No pun intended there. Like your kid is already dealing with leukemia, which I mean, it's cancer. And so like there is a death rate with that.
Dan:
He's already weakened. Let me make him weaker.
Emily:
Right. I'm surprised this boy didn't die because he literally got sepsis.
Dan:
They should have charged her with attempted murder. That's just... no. Alright. My next story comes from Fox 2 now in St. Louis. It's actually about a California couple. And the headline is Couple Left Bikes in yard to lure thieves, beat them with bats and posted videos to YouTube, because that's what you that if you want to really incriminate yourself, guys, post your videos to YouTube. Okay. I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the people that were trying to steal bikes.
Emily:
Yeah. Fuck them.
Dan:
I mean, this is... what they've done is illegal. But if you try to steal a bike, you kinda deserve what's coming to you.
Emily:
Just leave them alone. You won't get beaten.
Dan:
Yeah. So here's the full story. California couple Savannah Grillot, 29. And Corey Cornutt.
Emily:
No.
Dan:
Yes, his name's Cornutt.
Emily:
The Corn Nut heir?
Dan:
Maybe. How great would that be if he was heir to the corn nut empire and he was just an eccentric millionaire, he's putting out like a hundred bicycle's in his front lawn every day. Yeah. Beat me some thieves. They were arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy in connection with the series of at least four beatings between July and November.
Emily:
People shouldn't be stealing bikes.
Dan:
And the police official statement on it-- in the videos, it appears as if the suspects planted a bicycle in the front yard of their residence, unsecured and waited for someone to try and steal the bicycle. Once someone tried to steal the bike, the suspects would rush from the house and assault the individual with a baseball bat.
Emily:
OK.
Dan:
I don't want to see these people's YouTube videos. I wanna see their neighbors' YouTube videos of the people rushing out of the house with a bat to beat somebody.
Emily:
That would be so good.
Dan:
I don't really have a lot to say on that one on other than
Emily:
Hey, people don't fucking steal bikes or else you're gonna get beat.
Dan:
Yeah. Now we're going to try a segment inspired by our last episode. Episode Fifteen A Sugar Daddy Relationship.
Emily:
You gotta say it.
Dan:
(Creepy voice) A sugar daddy relationship.
Emily:
Eww. This is gonna be fun.
Dan:
Yeah, we're gonna call this segment "That's tasty!" I'm just going to find food related articles or recipes and I'm going to read it in an overly sexual creepy vibe.Because for some reason it creeps out Emily, but she also finds it highly entertaining.
Emily:
I do, it is so fucking weird. Like it's so entertaining.
Dan:
It's funny to watch you respond to me talk in that tone because like you're laughing, but you like shudder at the same time. So for the inaugural edition of That's Tasty.
Emily:
No. You gotta say the way it's supposed to be.
Dan:
(creepy) That's tasty. We've got a cheesy taco recipe from myfoodandfamily.com
Emily:
(laughing)
Dan:
Are you even going to make it through this a recipe?
Emily:
I hope so.
Dan:
I'm just introducing and you're shuddering.
Emily:
Cause they way you said cheesy taco.
Dan:
It only gets worse.
Emily:
Buddy.
Dan:
(creepy) Let's start with your ingredients. You're gonna need a pound of ground beef, a quarter cup of water, one package of Taco Bell taco seasoning mix. Half a pound of Mexican Velveeta cut into half inch cubes. Mmm... That Velveeta-- that's gonna be so CREAMY.
Emily:
(laughs)
Dan:
(creepy) You're also going to need one package of warmed Taco Bell crunchy taco shells.
Emily:
Ok. Just a stopping point here. If you guys are gonna listen to this, you have to listen to it with headphones on because it makes it so much fucking weirder. Dan's across from me. And like if I let my headphones just slipped off and like I could hear him. But it is so much weirder when your headphones are right on your head. So if you really want the full effect of Dan, then pop on them headphones,.
Dan:
(creepy) OK. Last ingredients. One cup. Shredded lettuce. One cup. Chopped tomatoes. And one cup, Taco Bell salsa, and you're going to want that salsa THICK and CHUNKY.
Emily:
No! (laughs) I don't know why I lost it on the shredded lettuce.
Dan:
(creepy) You got your ingredients. You're gonna want to start cooking it. You're to start with your ground beef. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT MEAT.
Emily:
(laughs)
Dan:
(creepy) And brown it in a large skillet and then drain. Stir in the water and your seasoning mix. Now, add that Velveeta. You want to stir frequently, get some nice wrist action in there and cook until that Velveeta is completely melted.
Emily:
I'm really glad you didn't say creamy again.
Dan:
(creepy) Now you're going to take your meat and creamy goodness.
Emily:
Goddammit
Dan:
(creepy) And stuff it in the fold of that taco. Now top it with your lettuce, tomatoes and salsa. Put your mouth on that taco and start eating. And don't be afraid to get a little on you. Mmm... that's tasty.
Emily:
Oh, no. I think my favorite part was stuff it in the folds of the taco.
Dan:
(creepy) I might have taken some creative license with that recipe,.
Dan:
(regular voice) But the link will be in the show notes if you want the actual recipe.
Emily:
Oh, that's normal? That was the greatest thing ever.
Dan:
If you want to try that recipe, the link will be in the show notes. I'm sure that myfoodandfamily.com wants to be associated with this segment.
Emily:
Oh no. That was that was wild.
Dan:
Yes, that's our family-friendly segment of the show.
Emily:
Loved it so much though. It was so weird. Things got weird. That was so good. I can't wait for this to happen again.
Dan:
Okay. Let's just jump right into Star Wars.
Emily:
Okay.
Dan:
So, you're the one who's new to Star Wars. What did you think?
Emily:
I actually really liked it. Like I went in with like, you know, I never seen. I do know, like the basics of it because I mean, it's kind of how I grew up with most of the movies coming out. But it was one of those things like like I said earlier, was something I was never like. I had to watch these. And so, like, I didn't set expectations for it. And so I sat there and watched. And I got really into it like I was really surprised how into it I got. And, you know, for it was made in 77.
Dan:
Yeah.
Emily:
Some of the graphics in the first one were actually not terrible. I was quite surprised. OK, so. OK. For the 70s, the graphics weren't that terrible.
Dan:
We need to talk about that. So I would agree that the special effects are amazing for the 70s.
Emily:
I can't wait to talk about the second one because I what I did watch like the first like 20 minutes of it.
Dan:
The version that we watched is on Disney Plus is not the version that was originally released in 1977. It's not even the version I grew up on.
Emily:
So is there an original version out there?
Dan:
You can not get it anymore like it's out there. I have the VHS of as close to the original as you can get. The original original version didn't even say Episode IV A New Hope in it. That's the version most people have seen is the one I have on VHS.
Emily:
And like when it came out in theaters and 77, it didn't have that?
Dan:
Not originally because George Lucas always wanted to do a series, but they weren't sure if it was going to be successful enough.
Emily:
Yeah
Dan:
There wasn't a lot of faith in the movie because people were like this is kind of weird.
Emily:
Yeah.
Dan:
Once it just became a pop culture phenomenon, very quickly they were like yeah you're making a sequel. And then George Lucas was like, okay, then we have to set this up as the way I originally envisioned it. Which brings me to the special effects. In nineteen ninety seven, George Lucas had more money than God.
Emily:
Yeah.
Dan:
And access to the fairly new computer animation. So he rereleased them as a special edition with new scenes and computer animation added in. Which is very distracting to me when we were watching it for the show.
Emily:
So the one we watched was the re-mastered.
Dan:
Yes. Any time that you see people riding like animals, like giant lizards and stuff, that was all.
Emily:
I thought that looked a little too smooth considering I don't want to get into the second episode or Episode V. But like you could tell a difference.
Dan:
Some of those animals were in the original version. They just weren't moving around a lot. There's one in this special edition that rears up on it's hind legs. It's very distracting for me because I was expecting the movie to go one way and I don't think I've ever seen the special edition in its entirety. So the stuff kept popping up. I'm like, what the fuck is that? Like I watch this movie so many times as a kid that I like have it in my brain.
Emily:
Yeah.
Dan:
And I'm just like, whoa.
Emily:
So do you think it's one of those things like I need to go and watch the old version of it if you can find it.
Dan:
I mean, I only have it on VHS which.
Emily:
Who has a vhs player.
Dan:
I do. I have the entire original trilogy on VHS.
Emily:
I think my brother does too.
Dan:
I think you would appreciate the quality of the special effects they actually did achieve in the 70s. So I saw that version.
Emily:
So technically you have seen the older version of it then and the graphics were still well done.
Dan:
Yes. I would say the changes they've made to this version make the original graphics look worse just because of in comparison to computer animation, they're not that impressive.
Emily:
Yeah.
Dan:
But they're pretty darn impressive. Like there's the dogfight at the end of the movie. They did all that with models. That's not computer animation. It's not like they completely remade the movie with computers. A lot of the special effects are in there. They just kind of touched them up a little bit. It's amazing. It was ahead of its time and they invented technologies for it. They invent an entire company-- ILM Industrial Light & Magic. That is pretty much the industry leader for computer effects.
Emily:
That's awesome.
Dan:
They do Marvel movies and most of what you see in today's movies and special effects, it owes its lineage to Star Wars.
Emily:
It definitely was a an opening to something greater. And I now have a better appreciation of the movies because I mean, they made this first movie not knowing how it was going to turn out. And, you know, what is there nine movies now?
More There's the nine main movies, two recent spinoff movies and then two other spinoff movies they made back in the 80s. You should watch on Disney. Plus, everybody, I believe, is called Empire of Dreams. It's a kind of documentary, looking back on the making of Star Wars and you get a much better idea of the kind of special effects they were doing back in the day. You'll really appreciate how genius they are. Do you know what their budget was for this movie? Off the top of my head? I don't know. But they definitely stretched their money. I don't think it was a shoestring budget, but they weren't.
It was something a lot of people weren't like confident. And so like.
Yeah, and the studios have changed a lot since then. At that point in time, they weren't putting the money into movies that they are now and they still put like a million dollars into this. But today's Marvel movies, their budgets are just insane, but they know like the especially like those main ones.
They knew that they're not going to tank. Yeah.
And the budgetary and technological restrictions of that time really push them to be more creative and imaginative on their solutions. You should watch Empire Dreams. It's amazing just what they came up with to solve problems. I'll have to look at that. Why don't you just go into like just how you felt about Star Wars? Now that you've seen it.
So there are a few things like, you know, how it like the cut scene, like, you know, cut from scene to scene that one night is some like does art travel through all the movies, the way it cuts through the way it kind of like slides across? Yes, that is so that's just like a statement of the movies. Yeah. A staple of the movies.
That was George Lucas. A lot of the original Star Wars is common. Oh, Marge.
Two earlier 30s, 40s type sci fi serials. So that was kind of something they did back in that time.
Okay. 'Cause that was what it like. I don't know if that was intentional or that was going to be present to the rest of the movie because it made it feel like it was a little too jumpy at parts.
Now that is something that will carry over even into the newer ones. It's just the language of the films.
Overall, I got to a time. I really liked it and I am ready to watch the next ones. And I really like I don't know for sure me maybe a female with it. Princess Leia in the first one. I kind of like her attitude because she just comes off as this bad ass vision just isn't going to take somebody's shit. But I also think that's Carrie Fisher. Yeah, her finest. And I really liked how she was like, oh, I don't need this. Like, you know, Han Solo is cocky. Like, he is a cocky man. And you can see him soften a little bit. But like that he'd still be like, oh, I am like a master pilot. I'm going to save your ass on the line that she says in the beginning, oh, you came in that you're braver than I thought he'd been awhile since I've seen a new hope.
And when they rescue her, but then they get pinned down by storm troopers. She's like, nice rescue guys.
She she's sassy. And I like it a lot. Yeah, she's if she like that throughout or they make her tone it down, she is like that.
She doesn't get much to do in Empire Strikes Back, but she has a bigger role and return of the Jedi.
I definitely wasn't expecting Obi-Wan to disappear so quickly in the first on either. But like I knew, he wasn't like, I know he's a big part of it, but I knew that he wasn't present for a part of it. I don't know. I just. I like that. I like how the characters come together in a very unconventional way. And then, you know, being complete strangers. We're gonna help each other out. I really like watching the Death Star blow up, though. Yeah, the Death Star is so cool. There was a lack of it when they were, you know, trying to blow it up and watching everybody like explode.
And the lack of like, my friends are dead. They just kept going on.
There's usually a lack of like empathy, like, you know, Luke's childhood friend just died before his eyes.
Yeah. I'm trying to remember how much of his friend was in the original. I know they've his role has been expanded over the years.
I think they've taken some stuff out also with the fact like, you know, this you know, this random kid comes in, they're like, you're a pilot. Let's go. Like, okay, you're just gonna throw it like you don't know his skill. So you're just gonna throw him in a ship on a critical mission. Yeah.
And what's funny is you've never seen him pilot anything until that point, just besides that little like hover car that he had. Yeah, that was it. Watch that. That is another thing that they amazingly did in the 70s and that affect most of that and that you saw. That's how it looked like in the original like.
So very little did they actually touch up in the 90s but like they kind of enhanced.
Yeah. It's more adding computer characters when it looks like something that was obviously computer like hon. Talking to Jabba the Hutt. That's not in the original. Yeah. Talking about Obi-Wan. Mm hmm. There is a point when they're on the Death Star. Mm hmm. Obi-Wan has gone off by himself. Luke and Haun are locked in a room just waiting for oh, we want to get back in. Horn says something about Obi-Wan being stupid or something. Yeah. And Luke officeand. Like he's a great man. How would you know? You just met him.
I wonder, Flake, because, you know. Well, he grew up with the stories of Obi-Wan because Luke's dad. Yeah. And Obi-Wan were. You know what? Battle buddies. Yeah. Both Jedi Knight and so like. I mean he grew up with this. I could see it because he grew up with the stories of Obi-Wan. But like, how can you really judge if you don't know him? I also thought he was crazy. You know, very out there for like the 70s for being was it marketed as a kid show like like a young teen or I don't think has really marketed as kids thing.
It definitely set a precedent for merchandising.
Well, I'm saying that because like the part where spoilers, I guess when Luke goes back to his village and his and uncle are charred alive and you just see their bones in the melted flesh. So when I saw it, I don't like is. I wonder what age group this was really marketed to. Back in the 70s, I'm assuming like teen to young adult.
Yeah. I don't think they were really going for kids. Yeah, definitely become a very kid friendly child is family friendly. Talking about Luke's uncle, when I was a kid watching it, I always was just like, man, his uncle's a really mean like his uncle is just a hard case. Like he's just honest, ASML, everything. Not a nice guy. So I didn't really mind when he dies. Yeah. Now that I'm older, I'm like, wow, he's really just trying to protect you. He's just trying protect him. He knows like his father died. There's that scene where Obi Wan gives Luke his dad's light saber and says, Your uncle won't let me give this to you because he was afraid you would run off on a stupid crusade with me.
Spoiler. Well, his uncle wasn't wrong. His uncle was wrong.
Luke's first like immediate instinct is like, yeah, let's go in as a venture. I mean, granted, he doesn't have anything holding him back. And he says that.
But especially like I mean I really after's you know, parental units are now both gone.
His first reaction is to run off with a stranger who had just gotten to his death.
Another thing was like the lack of like, you know, sadness and empathy when his you know, why he was there with them ever since he was like a little kid, like doesn't ever explain what happened to his mom. Later on, yeah. That was like freak. That's what this is. What I'm like really excited about is knowing how it started. Like, I'm really excited to, like, get to like one, two and three because I want to know how it starts and I want to know how it all ties together. I love storylines and I kind of like the way that this is set up. Like you're not watching in order, right? You're seeing it like four, five, six, one, two, three. I kind of actually like that.
I thought about us watching them in chronological order. But I really feel like people should enjoy them in the way that they are, at least like that gives you the same experience that everybody else had.
Yeah, I think a lot of people would agree that this is how you should watch them.
I think this movie looks really good. Not I'm not talking about the special effects, just the way it's filmed. The set design like the Millennium Falcon, the Death Star, these feel like lived in sets for an era of filmmaking when a lot of it was like just throw up a fake war.
You may view it really well. Like I have such high appreciation for very limited what I really had back in the 70's. And we're still able to pull this off.
There was one scene. It's Darth Vader and Grandma Tarkin, who's in charge of the Death Star. They're in a meeting with all these other officers. It's the scene where Vader chokes one of the officers whilst watching those like this scene is really well filmed. Like it's the lighting in it. It feels like a modern film just the way it's shot rather than a lot of bright lights and no one else.
I notice that people like when you get into the Imperial. People talk with a higher society like almost British, like accent like do they just get a bunch of fucking British actors or.
This was filmed in Britain for a large part. Makes sense. I want to talk about that. The performances in this movie.
I think everybody kept a very well. Like some of them kept a very high. I think especially like the people in like the imperial room had to keep carry themselves a certain way to make it feel.
I think that what dates this poovie is the performances. It's a different style of acting and there's a mix of it. There's some of them or that are much more the actual actors going back to what they started in theatre and film became a thing. Some were as and I think I see that more in the imperial officers. But there's one guy early on in the movie he's just saying to Darth Vader, like an update on Princess Leia and there's no subtlety to put his performance at all. It's just straight exposition. It doesn't seem like he's thinking about what he's saying. It's just I'm putting these words out there. I think the best actor in the movie is probably here some forward. He feels very relaxed in that role. Yes. It's a role that he grows in. But in this first film, it definitely feels like he knew what this character was. Yeah. Whereas Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker, he feels very well.
How old was he? No. Like what, 17?
When I said I want to say he was probably around 20, but I feel like the way he performs the character is anywhere between nine and 20 depending on the scene, which I feel like I don't know.
Grew up out in, like the desert, like he doesn't. I feel like there's probably not a whole lot of, you know, maybe education. And so, like, he's kind of like a powerhouse brat.
He's very whiny with his uncle, his uncles, like, I want you to do this and this. Oh, but I can't go into. I mean, very white.
He is. How old was Carrie Fisher? Was Carrie Fisher 16 when they started filming these? She was young. I want to say they were all legal adults, but maybe I'm thinking of a different movie where they're the main girl was really young.
I could be wrong, but I want to say they were all legally adults, but they were all young. Yeah. Even Harrison Ford, he had some roles, but he was.
This was like a breakout movie. Yeah. Let's how about Darth Vader for a second? Because is it his voice different than the person in the suit?
Yes. His voice is James Earl Jones. Mm hmm. Known to many as Mufasa. Rest in peace. Rest in peace for me, Fossen. Not James Earl Jones. Dennis. That will be a sad day. Yes, I will be. But the actor that's inside the suit also is named David Prowse.
Well, wasn't it like he was in the middle of multiple things while filming this or it was not the case?
I've heard it told. Two different ways. One version is they never intended to use the physical actor's voice. They always want a very powerful voice and they just need to stand in. The other version I've heard is his voice sounded ridiculous. Once they started doing it and they decide a person in the suit. Yeah, we're getting a good physical performance, but we gotta do something about this voice.
So does James Earl Jones ever in the suit? No. OK. So it's all his voice recorded? Yes. And is it the same guy in the suit? Usually.
Always. Always. OK. Not in recent years. They've added Darth Vader into some movies, but the original trilogy. It's always the same guy. OK. With just the voice over. Yeah. And you would never know. No, you wouldn't. I have mixed feelings about Darth Vader in this movie. He has become the through line for the entire Star Wars saga like the prequels are his story. In this movie, it's hard to see how he became that important because he's not set up in this movie as the big bad guy even for this film. Yeah, he answers to somebody else.
See, that's what confused me. I'm like, OK, well, is this Vader ship or is it that one guy? Yeah. Tarkin. Yes. Because I mean, they both seem like they're in charge. Blake who's really in charge? Because it didn't seem like in this movie Vader had a lot of like when they escaped through the door and the door just kind of closed on Vader and he just hit part of me like I could see like they were intentionally doing it, but also like he didn't give much effort to try and stop anything. And that was just kind of my outlook on him on the movie. Like I like Vader and I hope to seem like how he rounds out in the movies. But like that one, he was very like in.
Yeah. I mean, he's a force in the movie. He literally he's very he's very imposing. He doesn't really do a whole lot. I mean he does have some involvement in the final dogfight. Princess Leia. Even at one point describes him as being on taskings leash. Yeah. Well, I never really thought about that. He's basically the henchman in this movie. If they very. Easily made more Star Wars movies and never brought that character back. It could've just been a different villain. Every movie. Hmm. It's interesting to me that that character grew and became the bad guy. I think that probably has some to do with like public reaction to the character. I don't know. I'm I'm really excited to see the next one. Yeah. The cantina scene where they meet all we want to Luke go in there looking for a pilot and that's where they meet on Nia. That's another scene where it took me out of the movie and I watched this version because it's going around the room. It's showing all these aliens. I was just like, what the fuck was that? That's not the movie. And then see this the thing I would've never have known. Yeah. And that scene is very well done. I only know because I've seen that scene so many times. Just like what?
The fighting that because hon breaks out in like, you know, chops that guy's arm often like Obi-Wan. Yes, sir. Obi-Wan like chops that guy's arm off. But like it just seemed messy and like the camera angles were not that great. So like that was kind of like a sentence, like what the fuck just happened?
Yeah, that one always confused me because as a kid I was like, okay, I guess it was the one guy's like cohort that got his arm cut off because it's a hairy arm. But the guy that was arguing with Luke is not a hairy guy. Yeah, but he had like a B&B boom looking friend with it. Yeah, it's not well shot. I was gonna bring up that scene. It tells you a lot about the quality of this place that somebody gets their arms sliced off and everybody just immediately goes back to drinking. Five minutes later, Hahn shoots a guy in the bar and nobody reacts.
Do you think it's because I mean, is it only. It's only Jedi Knight sattelite sabers, right?
Yes. At this point in time in the galaxy, many people are only vaguely aware that Jedi I exist. And if they are aware of them, they're like a rumor or myth.
Do you think it has anything to do? Like. I'm not going to fuck with that guy because we now know who he is. And then Hahn might just be, you know, this is just some asshole with a gun.
I think it's just a harsh place. Only one does describe it as a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah. I think they just see on a daily basis and. Yeah. Yesterday we had a guy get skinned alive in the bar. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's just how their life goes. You work in a bar. Can you imagine if some guy got shot? airmiles was like yeah I'll just have another one.
I couldn't. Maybe if it was like mobster days and no one's even concerned about.
Clean it up the floor, rats will get it. Yes. Florida loves the the sand people, not the same people, but like those little jours. Yeah, they'll probably use it for something.
I love the negotiation between all we want in, hon, because hon wants 10000 credits to take them to on all we want. And Luke are both like, no, that's too much. And then everyone says we'll give you two thousand now and fifteen when we get there. And Hahn takes it like a sucker. Yes there is. Once you're there, what guarantee is there that you're going to get that fifteen, especially when you're obviously a smuggler and criminal, you're not going to like any cops or anything to turn them in.
I just like that they were accepted onto the Death Star. So easy.
Well, I think that that was okay. Here's what I think happened there. We find out in the film that they're allowed to escape so that it can be tracked to the rebel base and figure out the location.
Yeah. Were they let on because they thought they were going to move stuff for them?
I think why they were let on is because at this time the Death Star is supposed to be a secret. And here's this ship flying by. It's like, what's that? So I'm sure they're just like, okay, we're taking this ship on board and any buy on it. They're not ever speaking to anyone ever again. Yeah, I feel like this movie moves really fast. That's one thing I notice is it doesn't linger in one place too long.
No, I was going to say is I like the guy in the ending there when the dust star was trying to come upon the secret planet or the moon or whatever their hideaway is. I like that. It didn't like the ship wasn't moving at hyper speed and like ran around that planet like it took, what, an hour to come around the side of the planet to see something like that. I like that. It was like, you know, using space, things revolve. Right. And it takes time to revolve around the planet. So I like that it use that like, oh, this we're gonna move around this and just blast them. No, it actually had to take time to come around this planet.
How about when they test the Death Star on Altar?
Oh, my God. You know, I thought it was a joke at first. And then when they were like, well, sorry to hear about all year, I'm like, oh, god damn.
I remember when the special editions came out and people were showing like images online of the differences. There was one where some I circled the explosion of Ultron and like one of the specs and said, oh, look. The special edition, they added layers, father.
That's a dark joke. Let's play. How about that?
As a one asshole, that villain is like that is a lost character. Like he dies in the movie. He's such he's so hateful. He tells her, we're going to talk to and Hagen, he tells her we're going to blow up your planet unless you tell us where the rebel base is. And then she lied. But she tells him something. He lies like, what a bitch. I love his reasoning, too. He's like, oh, the plant, you told us, is just too far away to be an effective demonstration.
We can blow up this planet or pitch. Yeah.
What did you think about Vader and Obi-Wan? The fight? Yes.
You could tell the history between them. You could really see that they didn't want to fight, but it was like an inevitable scene. You know, this is what it came to. And knowing that the way that Obi-Wan just kind of dispersed. Yeah. Was kind of neat and makes me think like something else is going to happen. And he's just going to like it's some kind of metamorphosis and he's gonna to, like, come back and like. But I don't know. I really don't know. Maybe. And the way that you're looking I mean, I know it does, but it is something I honestly did not know if he would or not. But like he knew he intentionally did it. And Vader kind of knew that he couldn't have that power.
Yeah. I love the way that when he disappears, Vader goes over it. He's a kick in. The robe's like what you do shrink is just not quite sure what happened.
Yeah, but like you could tell, they were like, you know what he say? Like that was his own master. Yeah. They really didn't want to fight. Like it was something that they did not want to do. But, you know, circumstances came and they had to do something like Vader didn't want to portray himself as like weak, like, this is my master. I'm gonna kick his ass.
I love how the imperial officers have no respect for his religion. They got yeah. The force field karma a wizard. And you call them tricks.
Yeah. They choke. He chokes the shit out of them like, yeah, you're really going to disrespect this powerful be.
It can't be the first time any of them have heard of him choking somebody like from across the room.
And then the fact like when they're when he's talking to the people down in the detention center and he's choking the guy down in the detention center, he's all the way. Who the fuck knows? Yeah. And like you're really going to make fun of him and he can reach you from miles away.
Yeah. I think the biggest disappointment these films is just because of the limitations of the time. You don't get to see him just be a complete bad ass like he's a very powerful character and like the first couple movies or the entire series. There is more action for him as the series goes on. There's more money. But just like the first couple movies, this first one is just one. There's not a lot of room for that. But how much of a fight is he going to have against an older actor at this time? They can't replace a face. Yeah. So that light saber duel could have been a little cooler, but they get better as it goes on. You should watch road one next year. Well, we're kind of saving the other movies for future episodes. Route 1 takes place right before a new hope. OK. So it's not really spoiling. There's not much from the prequels during this. How spoiled is its own spin off? And you really get to see very briefly, Vader just lay and so it's not going to mess up one, two and three. No, it's yeah. It's not really.
So like I could have watched it without seeing any of it. Or should you at least a new hope.
Yeah. You need to see at least a new hope because rogue one is about how they got the plans for the Death Star. You know it's a heist movie basically.
Cause I was wondering that because when they were doing the fight scene at the end they were calling the ships rogue too. And I was like I wonder if this has anything to do with where I won.
Well, there's also the X-Wing pilots in this movie. There's no Red 5. Fred 4. Yeah. Lucas Red 5. That part of that movie doesn't make sense. They're just like, okay, we just met you. We're not even sure if you're a spy or not, but sure. Up on this ship. Yeah. And they can't be cheap. How we got here is equivalent to like one of our fighter planes. It has to be you'll have somebody just show up on a aircraft carrier and say, hey, can I try out one of those ships? I'm a really good Bush pilot. That guy over there knows me. Yeah, I love that. His friend Biggs is like, oh, no, he's good. He's the best pilot I've ever seen. Oh, okay. It's all a reference anxiety. We don't need to put him in a simulator or anything. Now, why would you look so wrapping up our discussion of Star Wars. Where are you hoping the series goes? You obviously know there's a foreign five and there's a whole prequel trilogy and then we have newer movies. What do you want all the rest of this original trilogy?
I really want to know Luke's background. Like, I want to know why Vader is there. I want to know how like why of the Jedi is considered a myth. I want to know. You know, I just want. The characters round out to make more sense, especially since 4, 5 and 6 kind of jump in the middle of it. I want to see pieces come together like I need character backgrounds. I'm very into like reading up on people. And I really hope that this can help me because I know bits and pieces because I mean, like I said, it's always been there ever since, like. I mean, I'm only 24, but like every since I've been growing up at Star Wars has been massive my entire life. And I know my brother is seen them and I know have friends that are really hugely into them. So I I want to know what they know.
Anything specific for the main three?
Luke Homme Laya, just how their relationships all grow together and how they know cope with everything and how they become how they grow into their characters. Like I want to see the characters develop. Like I'm really into character development. That's like my big thing.
I think one thing I like about hon. He's all he's a scoundrel, but he does grow over the series even in this movie. He has that arc of. At first he's only helping them because he's in the same shit situation they're in. They're stuck on the Death Star. Yeah. Like they paid him. And then he should be done. But his ship is stuck on the Death Star, so he kind of has to help them. Yeah. And then Buddy in the movie he's got his people are so bad. He's gotten his reward. He could take off and he comes back in the crucial moment and help save the day.
Yeah. So knowing like he's so, you know, antihero turned hero. He never wanted to be a part of that. He goes, you know, I kind of want to help these people.
Yeah. Conda great character is so many characters since then have been based on harm. You need a Han Solo type character. Yes. OK, so we'll just wrap up our Star Wars discussion with a little game. OK. Kind of like when Emily has Mingus bands. I have a list of 10 character names in Emily's. Gonna have to tell me whether they're Star Wars characters or not. And the extra little twist is they're all characters from something. So even if she's heard the name, she doesn't know if there's Star Wars or not. Perfect. And this is also just kind of poking some good fun at the ridiculousness of science fiction names. Ready? Yes. Dexter Jetsetter. That's not a Star Wars name that has a Star Wars.
I really because I chose to go good.
Jetson's, Dexter Jetsetter. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Jadzia DAX. Real. Well, they're all real. Wow. Well, all fiction. OK, if I'm going to say real, then real Steinways. As Star Trek, I want to do fucking terrible at this greif car. Get real. What is this? Amanda Lauren bib for tuna. I feel like this on Java says fake as real. He works for Java. It literally sounds like something he like, says Dasch. Or Render fake. That's real. Jesus Christ. I'm doing fucking terrible when I've got one. Yeah, I guess so. These are every single one of these. Sounds like somebody just laid on their keyboard. Yeah. BEF. tanon real as from back to the future. Fuck, I've never seen back to the future and I don't plan on it either. Not something that I've ever been interested in. Count Monday go. Read as Count Monte Cristo. I read the book to Baz Malpass yeah, I guess I say in real for all these reasons I have on Israel. Bodi Rooke Fake ones, a real fuck. I'm really pissed at myself because I don't fucking know who these people are.
Oh, there's no reason for you to know. Most of them is just that's the fun of the game is they're all ridiculous names. They could it could be a coin toss. The last one.
Sabean Rin real that Israel only because Kylo Ren Xining related to Nivens spelled the same way. What the fine fuck people. You got 3 out of 10? Yeah, you're gonna have to try this on the next episode. Yes. So are we ready to wrap this up? Soda?
Yeah. You got some special Star Wars Urban Dictionary?
I've got one, but I've got a couple others that I just found that are really fucking hilarious. So are you ready to dust my whets?
Whatever it is, I don't think your boyfriend would appreciate it if I did. It doesn't sound good. It's not even sexually. It still doesn't sound good.
You ready to know what it means? Sure. To add parmesan to what? Spaghetti.
I guess some comedian said it in a tweet.
When else would you do it?
Are you just supposed to, like, leave your spaghetti out for days and let the sauce know you drain it like you draw?
I'm thinking of wet with like the pasta sauce. No. Like spaghetti. And then you just parmesan it. Don't look good. Me put some garlic salt on that, too. Mm hmm. Moving on. Yeah. Flea bagging. Okay. It's when you get t bagged by a stray dog close. Okay. A homeless man. T-Bag another man or a woman? Jesus. I was just trying to be ridiculous. I wasn't far off.
Just be happy these have poop in them because I got banned from saying poop jokes.
Banned. Yeah. Just to clearly get away from that for a little. No, because I found some poop jokes and I cut Nuzum using my work.
Yeah. Because I can say Cleveland steamer at work. So our very special addition to today's episode, Vader's Fist. Dan, what's the original definition to Vader's fist?
Okay. In actual Star Wars, Canon Vader's fist is a nickname for a legion of elite storm troopers that went into battle with Darth Vader. What's our urban dictionary definition for Vader's fist?
Instead of fingering one takes a whole fist and rams it into the girls start port starved for short sentence. Hot damn. Lauren nearly sucked my fist into her black hole when I gave her the old Vader's fist.
Ok. I'm not sure how that's a different than normal fisting, but whatever. A wrap of the show. Yes. All right. Arabi.
Thanks for listening. Tune in next episode. I almost said next week, but tune in next episode for the Empire Strikes Back. I'm excited. We appreciate if you can give us star ratings and reviews on i-Tunes or whatever your find your podcast. Check us out on my Kid Jiggers podcast YouTube. If you want to see some episode art. Every episode I do. Just like a quick little episode art with our title in Q Cartoon faces.
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Do you guys like Star Wars? Is there a movie that you guys want us to do? What are your feelings on the series or the Star Wars series?
Yeah, we're gonna be doing a lot more discussions on movies. So if there's any movie Star Wars or not that he wants to talk about, just let us know. We're verbal throughly into movies. So this is really fun for us. And we got Disney plus. That helps. All right. That's gonna be all for today. Bye, Felicia. Happy 20:20, bitches. Bye, Felicia.
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