Mini Episode: Terrible Peepers

Dan and Emily reflect on the show's origins, recording the first episode, and the experience of getting into podcasting. 

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Dan:
Hey, guys. Welcome back to a special mini episode of My Kajiggers with Dan and Emily.

Dan:
We thought we would just take a brief moment to reintroduce the show. We had kind of a rough first episode. The audio quality wasn't that great. So we thought for anybody that just couldn't listen to that...

Emily:
We don't blame you.

Dan:
We would just go ahead and reintroduce the show who we are. How we know each other. What we want the show to be. And just talk about our experience podcasting. I'm Dan.. And with me is Emily.

Emily:
Hey, guys.

Dan:
So, yeah, that first episode.

Emily:
Oh, buddy. Like we after taking so long to get a set up and we were... like it's sad because we were really into the first episode. And then when Dan played it back, I just remember getting a text for him like this is so fucked up.

Dan:
Do you remember we were recording. We had to take a break. I decided to play it back a little. And when you came in, I think you'd let Skadi outside. I was just heartbroken.

Emily:
I do remember that cause we were we set up my kitchen table, which it's a long rectangle, and so we're sitting on the short ends. And so we were echoing off the windows behind the table and you couldn't even hear me. It was only Dan's track playing.

Dan:
Yeah. So here's what happened. We had all our nice new podcasting equipment. Our mixing board... our headphone amplifier... And we were having a good time podcasting. We set out... what did we say? We were going to maybe record an hour and hopefully get a good forty five minutes out of it.

Emily:
Yeah.

Dan:
I think we recorded probably two, two and a half hours and we were just having a good time. But the software that we used to record had defaulted back to my laptop mic.

Emily:
Oh yes, I do remember that now.

Dan:
So it was getting me really clear. Well, halfway clear and basically just barely catching Emily on the backside of the computer. So when we took a little break and went to go back to recording, it was sort of a decision. We couldn't restart the whole thing. You can't recapture those moments.

Emily:
No, 'cause we had some really good moments on that.

Dan:
And the only other option was to start recording at that point in the episode with the actual right settings. And that just creates its own issues of half a shitty episode and half a decent episode. So yeah, if you listened or started to listen to that first episode, that's why the audio quality is so bad.

Emily:
And you guys are troopers.

Dan:
Yeah. If you listened through that whole thing, I got respect for you cause I don't think I could. I have tried to fix that so many times. As we've progressed, I've collected new software and plug ins for software that can filter stuff.

Emily:
And you've actually learned how to use the software at this point.

Dan:
There's no salvaging that audio. The raw audio's so bad.

Emily:
So that is really heartbreaking because I remember doing that episode and it was just so much fun and it was like the first time we got to really catch up with each other and the stuff that we brought to the table for this. So it... you feel defeated. But I think we've now we've grown and learned essentially how to use the software and we've gotten some better products.

Dan:
Yeah. I think we've definitely gotten better. I know I've had people personally compliment me on the quality of our audio.

Emily:
I didn't know that, actually.

Dan:
Yeah, it's actually disappointing when I listen to other podcasts now and I hear problems with their audio and they're people actually getting paid to do it. I get so disappointed in them. I'm like "Man, guys. Put a little more effort in." But yeah, now we've explained what happened with that episode, which and that is the episodes kind of the bane of my existence. The only reason it is still out there is just for posterity sake and completion. It'd be really weird to start our feed off of episode two.

Emily:
At this point we just have to own it.

Dan:
Yeah.

Emily:
Grow from your mistakes.

Dan:
But this is a new opportunity for people to get to know us if they didn't listen to that episode. So why don't you just explain the origins of the show and why we call it My Kajiggers?

Emily:
So Dan and I have been friends for quite some time now, and one of the things that we've really bonded over is the show Futurama. And most people know the show. It's a great show. If you haven't watched it, what the fuck are you doing with your life? But there are several characters on there and they all have, you know, their own jokes that they bring to the show. Like most comedy TV shows and particularly one character. And do you even know what her name is?

Dan:
I think. It's Hattie McDoogal. I think.

Emily:
She has probably some of the best fucking lines, and when she's rummaging around and, you know, scuffling and whatnot, she she talks about thingamajigs and her Kajiggers and, you know. You know. Kajiggers Yeah, it really can be a word for anything.

Dan:
Yeah, that's what I love about it. And even before the podcast, we were using it towards each other mostly to describe our aching joints.

Emily:
We're fairly young people too, and we should not have as many problems with our bodies as a normal human should.

Dan:
No. It's usually like our knees when our knees are aching and we're just both like "My Kajiggers!"

Emily:
Oh buddy, those fucking knees.

Dan:
Yeah. So what about our history there? We got to know each other working together, which we don't work together anymore. That's kind of why would we do the podcast is we missed seeing each other, which I mean now with our work schedules and stuff, we just don't see each other that much. This is a good way to get together.

Emily:
Yeah. We became friends working together. But we've actually known each other a lot longer because my brother, I have an older brother and he worked with Dan for several years. And so Dan has kind of known my family, but like we never became friends until we started working together. So and then just bonding through our sick, cruel humor, as you guys can tell. We've just we kind of fuel each other's fire and it's not good, but it's also the best damn thing ever.

Dan:
Yeah, we definitely build on each other's humor.

Emily:
And then Dan takes it too far.

Dan:
Yeah.

Emily:
Most of the time.

Dan:
I try. Lately I've been telling people... because I like to pitch these horrible ideas for movies. I like to brag that I could run any movie studio into the ground with style. I would make the worst possible movies, but people would love to watch them because they'd be so ridiculous that...

Emily:
I would watch them.

Dan:
Yeah, I would say we worked together for years, probably the first couple years. We weren't really friends, like we were friendly.

Emily:
But it definitely took time because I mean, not that there really is much of an age difference, but like he was my manager. And so I don't I don't really know how we became more friends. Was it because of like some of the other people that we work with her?

Dan:
I think it was just time like you work together with people long enough. You have enough downtime here and there and it just builds.

Emily:
especially after because I mean, the job that we met at, I worked in high school, so we didn't really get a whole lot of time together until I actually graduated. And then I started working more and I really think, yeah, time.

Dan:
Yeah. And then and you got promoted too. So you were on the same level as me and we had the same things to complain about. We kind of got to bond over.

Emily:
Hatred.

Dan:
Yeah. Mutual anger and hatred. Yeah. We also bond over being terrible peepers. We also bond over being terrible people sometimes.

Emily:
I like that terrible peepers.

Dan:
I was going to cut that. We're just kind of horrible people. Like, not really, but we like to go to dark places with our humor.

Emily:
We're not terrible people. Our brains are terrible entities.

Dan:
Yeah. We're not responsible for what comes out of our brains.

Emily:
No, not really.

Dan:
So how would you describe yourself, your overall vibe, your interests?

Emily:
Oh, I don't like being put on the spot like that because I'm terrible at describing myself. I guess I am everything that a redhead is as much as I can say that I am mean. I am snarky, but I am also a very loving person.

Dan:
Pale.

Emily:
Very pale. It is ridiculous. I mean, I have got other friends that are paler than I am, but I am the entity of a redhead. But oh no, I am. You guys hear my animals. I love them to death and they drive me up the goddamn wall and they probably do you too, because sometimes it's really hard to cut that shit out.

Dan:
Actually, I don't really try that hard. I mean, if we have to stop the podcast to let Skadi bark at the neighbors or something. I obviously cut that out. That's something I've grown to be comfortable with as this show has grown.

Emily:
Because the animals have become a part of the podcast.

Dan:
Yeah.

Emily:
But I don't know. I don't really know how to describe myself besides.

Dan:
Emo trash.

Emily:
Oh, emo trash. I'm a Sagittarius and that should explain a lot to most people. So but emo trash is really good through and through. So why don't you explain yourself?

Dan:
Yeah, I'm just.

Emily:
Star Trek trash.

Dan:
I'm bad Star Trek trash. As we're recording, the new Picard show has recently started up and I have not seen any of it. I've just been busy.

Emily:
I'm surprised. But I also know why you're so busy, so.

Dan:
Yeah, I'm really into Star Trek and superheroes, really into movies. We both are into movies, but I'd say I probably drive that conversation more. I like to think that I am a fairly simple person, but maddeningly so to some people. Some women that I have dated have been frustrated that I just... I'll say what I'm thinking and I'm not that complex. Like, you don't have to dig that deep. I'm not talking in like half truths or something. Yeah, it frustrates some people.

Emily:
Women are difficult creatures, so.

Dan:
Yeah, I say what I mean and I mean what I say. Other than that, like I'm...

Emily:
You're very straightforward. That's the thing. You are a very straightforward person. It's one of those things that, as I've known, Dan, he's always been very quiet, but now he's just. Dan has broken out of his shell a little bit. And he's definitely tells it as it is, especially when things get to be a little too fucking ridiculous.

Dan:
Well, I just think if everybody was more straightforward and not necessarily like mean or blunt, but just if you say what you're really meaning, life would be so much better for everybody. Like there's so much bullshit that everybody has to cut through. Just be honest and don't lie. I just...

Emily:
Life lessons, y'all.

Dan:
Yeah. I don't see the point in overcomplicating communication.

Emily:
No.

Dan:
We already talked about how My Kajiggers the phrase can mean anything. That's kind of what we set out to make the podcast. When we started, we didn't really set out to make a podcast on any one topic. Right?

Emily:
Right.

Dan:
So our podcast isn't quite as focused as a lot podcast. We're very random. We've recently started focusing a little bit more on movies this year just because it's really hard to market a podcast that's a different thing every week and kind of hard to edit something that's just constantly shifting gears to like a whole bunch of different segments. So although the podcast started off as something really random every week, we're kind of trying to keep it slightly that. We're really shifting toward something that's like a format.

Emily:
Yeah, I mean we we still like to keep like you say, like keep it, you know, interesting. And I don't think they were too random before because we did consecutively do certain things. And we just we wanted to change up like the fun middle part of our podcast, like we have our beginning. And then we've got, like, you know, the segment here and then we play games every once in a while. But I think now that we have a we've learned from that and finalizing like a specific topic for that podcast has helped us.

Dan:
Yeah, that's something in the podcasting journey where we had to shift and be like, this works. This doesn't. We got in a rut. Where it was every week was a list of our three favorite whatever and it led to some good conversation. But at the same time it got kind of repetitive.

Emily:
Yeah.

Dan:
Do you any thoughts on what the experience has been just getting into podcasting?

Emily:
It's definitely been different. Sitting down and actually talking about how... Not saying I don't sit down, talk about how I feel about things, but sitting down and actually going back and forth for, you know, an extended period of time about certain topics. And I like it because we can sit and Dan and I have differing opinions on a lot of things, but we also have similar views. But sitting down and like taking certain topics that we have talked about and getting each other's opinion on each side has really been very not opening, but enlightening, I guess. And knowing how each other feels about some things and like it's not something we've ever done before. Like we'll chat. We used to chit chat about things at work, but like this time we actually get to sit down, have a full blown one on one conversation.

Dan:
It's a little different experience sitting down and recording a conversation. I don't know about you but I find myself in this weird headspace. When we started, I wasn't sure if it'd be easy to just keep talking and forget about other people listening because there's the whole cast stage fright.

Emily:
Yeah

Dan:
it's very easy to forget. And yet at the same time, it's also like I'm still aware of our listeners and trying to talk to them while I talk to you. But it's real simple. We just sit in the front of the mics and we just talk.

Emily:
Yeah, exactly.

Dan:
It' really easy because we're friends.

Emily:
And it was a lot easier than I was expecting it to be. It's still a lot of work, but actually sitting down and talking is really easy.

Dan:
Like we said earlier, we weren't sure how long our podcast episodes were gonna be, if we'd have enough to talk about, and we thought maybe we could get a forty five minute episode of the first time we recorded and went well over two hours. I'd say every week I cut at least a half hour to 40 minutes depending how long we record.

Emily:
Yeah.

Dan:
Because we're averaging around fifty three minutes every week on the final cut. We usually go an hour and 20 hour and 30 minutes recording because it's not all gold.

Emily:
No, it's a lot of the experience of doing this. And knowing the editing that takes. But like, if you guys heard some of the shit that we were saying behind the mics. It is really fun because there are things that Dan will cut out. But I mean, there is a lot of stuff that I wish we could put in there. But I mean, we just don't have time to.

Dan:
Yeah, the editing is really time consuming. But also, you know, I try and make the best show out of what we record and pick the best parts because I try to produce a show that is something I would listen to. It's also why I'm so picky about the sound of the show.

Emily:
I think one of my favorite parts is because Dan does the editing. He takes the most. Well, not the most, but he takes the best line out of each podcast. And that's what the title is for each episode and they just get better and better.

Dan:
Yeah, every once in a while I'll hear something while we're recording. I'm like "That's the title." I usually don't until I'm well into editing sometimes not until after I finish the edit and I'm listening back. That's the title.

Emily:
What was last week's title?

Dan:
It looks to be a couple inches long.

Emily:
See like stuff like that. And then we've had some really good ones.

Dan:
Our humor can be a little dirty sometimes. So we look for "that's what she said" type moments.

Emily:
They're the best.

Dan:
And originally I started off the titles trying to find a sort of funny lesson someone could learn from the show. So that's why, you know, some of our early episodes, it's all like statements such as Don't Eat Your Baby or Cologne Does Not Replace a Shower.

Emily:
But it doesn't.

Dan:
No, it doesn't.

Emily:
Learn that lesson, people.

Dan:
But over time, there wasn't as much good quality stuff for that kind of lesson type title. So I just started trying to find something dirty or whatever is funny from the episode that sticks out to me. I mean, there's podcasts out there that it's a very descriptive title of what's in the episode. That's boring.

Emily:
And it doesn't fit us and that doesn't fit the podcasts unless we take some kind of line out of it.

Dan:
No and we have a summary of the show anyway. Yeah, and we don't really have guests, so we can't just put our guest name in the title. We just try to keep it fun. Like that's something to talk about with the podcast is we do do it for fun. We're not really pursuing sponsors.

Emily:
Do do.

Dan:
Jesus. Early on we talked about like we weren't really trying to make money off of it.

Emily:
And it's one of those things like I don't care if we make money off of it. It literally is something like because Dan and I don't get to work with each other anymore. And this was our time to, you know, catch up. And it's been fun.

Dan:
I'm having a good time at it. It would be cool if we had sponsors. I'm not pursuing it. I wouldn't be really cool if we had shirts and stuff. But honestly, our audience is growing, but it's not big enough to justify having any kind of merch.

Emily:
Can we put the animals faces on them?

Dan:
That would be cool. If we ever do sell merch, we would definitely have to include Bronx and Skadi. They are the third and fourth members of the show. Bronx being the cat with a dick on his face. And Skadi is a sweet, derpy little pitbull.

Emily:
She's a chunk. So we had to take Skadi to the vet and she maxed at 73 pounds. And then some girl called her a hippo.

Dan:
Poor, Skadi

Emily:
So she's my little hippo.

Dan:
If you go on to our Facebook page, My Kajiggers Podcast, you can see a photo of them.

Emily:
Yeah.

Dan:
I love your animals.

Emily:
They're OK.

Dan:
I'll take either of them if you're not that excited about them.

Emily:
Okay. Well, you gotta fight Mikey for them.

Dan:
But somewhere down the road, maybe we'll sell merch. Maybe we'll have sponsors. Who cares? It really is all about us having fun.

Emily:
Yeah.

Dan:
So that's a quick reintroduction to my Kajiggers with Dan and Emily. Thanks for listening today. We will be back very shortly with a another full episode. If you like the show, we always appreciate any star ratings and reviews in iTunes or whatever app you're using to listen to the show. It really does help us out to get new listeners. So please give us some star ratings and reviews. Check out MyKajiggers.com. We have episode art for all of our episodes we post and we're starting transcripts.

Emily:
That's cool.

Dan:
Yeah, that's partially for accessibility. Partially helps people search our episodes better.

Emily:
Cool. But yeah, we also, like Dan mentioned earlier, find us on Facebook at My Kajiggers Podcast. You guys can comment. Leave notes for us. Say what you want to hear what you want to see. Like we've been doing the movie things. Let us know what kind of movies you want to hear. Let us know what else you want to hear from us. Let us know if you want to hear more Bronx and Skadi, because I'm sure you will regardless if you want it or not.

Dan:
Yeah. Let us know what movies you want to hear us talk about. Ideally something that's available on streaming. It's kind of hard for us to get together to go see a movie at the theater.

Emily:
Yeah.

Dan:
But that might happen from time to time.

Emily:
Thank you guys for listening and always just everything.

Dan:
Bye, Felicia.

Emily:
Bye, Felicia.

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